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Dec
2007
Posted by RumorMill as Boston Red Sox Rumors, Johan Santana Rumors, Minnesota Twins Rumors, New York Yankees Rumors
The New York Times reported that the potential deal to send Johan Santana to the Yankees "showed a flicker of life" this morning when the Twins "backed off their demand that the right-hander Ian Kennedy be added to the Yankees’ trade offer." The Yanks' offer to this point has been Phillip Hughs, Melky Cabrera, and a 2nd tier prospect. The Twins were asking for Kennedy in place of the prospect and thus, talks had stalled. While the Yankees are rumored to have a list of 5 players including Kennedy that they aren't willing to part with, I'd imagine that the Twins could find someone they liked enough in exchange for a year of Santana's time.
This news comes amidst speculation that a deal between the Red Sox and the Twins was nearing completion with the two teams swapping medical information on the players involved in a potential trade. There have also been rumblings lately that the Twins will simply keep Santana to make a run at the AL Central title or a trade before the deadline.
To be honest, I think the Twins would be foolish not to jump at the offers on the table from the Yankees or the BoSox. They know that they won't be able to resign their ace so essentially they are only giving up a year of his service and two draft picks. Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't the Yanks' offer be worth at least that, especially when you consider the Twins would also be saving the $13 million+ that Santana stands to make this year? With this in mind, I'd expect to see the pitcher dealt fairly quickly with the losing team turning to acquiring Dan Haren from the A's (which in my opinion would be the better player to acquire anyway).
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8 Responses
1213
December 4th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
1are you retarded, haran in better then santana, are you kidding me?!?!
RumorMill
December 4th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
2@ 1213, read the post again. I didn’t say Haren is better than Santana (although Haren did have a better year last year). I said Haren would be the better pitcher to trade for. Basically trading for Santan is giving up 3 or 4 players for the right to sign him to a huge deal. You’re going to be paying through the nose for several years as well as losing 3 or 4 players. By trading for Haren you’ll be paying MUCH MUCH less, and getting a pitcher that is a year younger, and still under team control. That’s why I think Haren would be the better trade target.
pops
December 4th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
3The Daily News has the Yankees pursuing Haren now that (or if) the Santana deal is dead. But, if you believe what the Yankees say publicly, there’s a bridge in their hometown for sale.
BTW, Haren is under contract for 2008 ($4 million), 2009 ($5.5 mil) and there’s an option for 2010 at $6.75 million. Those numbers are pretty attractive compared to what Santana is going to demand from whoever ends up with him.
Dudley
December 4th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
4For all you Bronx Bombers’ fans, … Salivate. I have been reading all this stuff. If the Yanks don’t pull this deal off, they’ll be the same as always; classic underachievers. Great at the bat up and down the line-up, but with unreliable starting pitching in the one month that counts the most. Santana is the real deal and teamed with Posada, you’d be watching one of the best batteries ever. Santana is a pitcher as opposed to a thrower, a complete pitcher, who knows how to throw. Haren and the others rely on their fastballs, but will not be as good when they no longer have one. The last time I checked Ortiz and Ramirez both hit fastballs pretty well. Most batters send a lot of air rippling past their bats before the ball gets to the plate when Santana throws his change up. He is a pro’s pro. It is true, Big Papi has looked for and hit Santana’s change-up, but he has pretty much hit everyone else too, right. Santana will beat him when it counts, because Santana has a big heart and he wants to win. He competes in the best way. He is friends with Big Papi, but guess what; he definitely wants to strike him out, just as he wants to strike everyone out, especially when it counts. Santana is made for the Bronx. Read what Posada has to say about it. Posada’s path to Cooperstown is to catch Santana. He is a good hitter, but not that good. He’d give his “eye teeth” to catch Johan. I would come to watch. I love Posada, he works hard, but he would be in heaven to catch Santana. It wouldn’t be work for him. He would die to catch Santana. Santana is like fine grade silk. Cashman knows; these other pitchers are year by year. I think Petite has at least another year, but he isn’t even a sure bet. Who else can you count on in the playoffs? Who competes? Liriano - Absolutely; but who else? What are you going to do for the other 8 innings of the first five playoff games? Perhaps you guys are thinking about the season, but hey, last I checked, getting a sure win in the playoffs is really what is needed. Who beat the Yanks this year? No one else can even remember. Funny that some Yankee fans that think Haren is as good as Santana. Perhaps they can’t remember how badly the Yanks played in the playoffs … and what was it that they didn’t have. I would say Solid Pitching; but fine … go with your two or three farm hands, perhaps an old guy or two and then a couple guys who are good during the season, but have never proved themselves in the playoffs. I am sure they can stand the pressure in the playoffs next year. Maybe Hank will ease off and tell them not to worry about it; it will be okay if they aren’t on. I am sure the Yanks will finally be able to win the big ones with those guys, just like they have for the past few years, right? The best pitcher in baseball is available; if the Yanks don’t get him, you will have all of October next year to remeber the one that got away. There are a lot of fish stories in Minnesota, but this one will be big enough for New York!Good luck.
Rob R.
December 5th, 2007 at 4:44 am
5I have heard a few rumors to the Yankees are back in the Santana deal, because Boston has switch Ellsbury for Crisp again. In addition to this, the Yankees have between discussing another trade with Washington, but this time a three way deal to bring Peavy & Nick Johnson to NY (AL).
Has anyone else heard this?
RumorMill
December 5th, 2007 at 10:06 am
6Rob, you either heard wrong or just made this up. Peavy is being signed to an extension, they aren’t trading him. I don’t know if you get your kicks going around and trying to start rumors but if so, you should really start with something less outrageous.
Rob R.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:40 am
7According to ESPN Insider the Red Sox are after Mike Lamb. Link is below to support this rumor.
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/features/rumors?&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmlb%2ffeatures%2frumors
Rob R.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:45 am
8I apologize for the speculation eariler. Below is a true story about Peavy’s deal with Padres being close. However, I caution it still is not a done deal.
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10512162
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